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Postby jak » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:01 pm

I have a client who has a huge community following and their current website runs on Joomla 1.5.x, which is painfully outdated/clunky.

I have convinced this client to start a fresh new installation of Joomla 2.5.x and am leaning towards using both JomSocial 2.8.2 and JEvents 2.2 (I think that's the latest version - perhaps 3.0) instead of some other events/calendar component. That also includes using JEvents instead of the built-in JomSocial Events.

After reading about your many addons you provide to Club Members, I would definitely recommend the Gold Member Club to my client, but do have some specific questions I need answered. Is this the proper forum or is there a support email address I can use to ask these questions.

Thank you so much for any help you can provide and whether this is the appropriate place to ask those client-specific questions. They mostly deal with what JEvents can do.

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Postby Geraint » Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:49 am

This is exactly the right place to ask your questions - unless there are commercially sensitive aspects to the questions.
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Postby jak » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:27 pm

Well, I don't believe I have to take this offline, so let me take a swing at some technical questions we have.

1) Will JEvents allow for setting up Paid Events and Non-Paid Events? (I think I found this to be a yes)

2) When configuring a paid Event, is there a way to purchase directly from the Event itself, as opposed to clicking several times to get to the place where you register for the event? (Here again, I believe I found that to be a yes also - including an addon that shows you who has already signed up.)

3) When registering for a paid Event, I noticed you referenced VirtueMart. Do you integrate with any other e-Commerce extensions for Joomla?

4) Can JEvents handle multiple locations for events? (I believe this is a yes too.)

5) Is there a way to allow some people to create Events, but prevent others from creating Events? JomSocial Groups perhaps? That might be a question for the JomSocial folks, but you might know. :-)

6) Have you ever had someone want to replace JomSocial's EVENTS menu with JEvents? I read on your site where you can import JomSocial Events into JEvents, but my client doesn't want two separate extensions that perform the same function. I know JomSocial won't help modify the code, but I might be able to figure that out myself. Is that possible? I guess I'm wondering what you have found to be the "best practice" when combining. JEvents & JomSocial. (Assume Joomla 2.5.9 at the very least and JomSocial 2.8.2)

This client is terribly gun-shy as it pertains to JomSocial and VirtueMart. Why? Because the site is still running Joomla 1.5 and terribly old versions of JomSocial and VirtueMart, and a different Calendar extension entirely. We've looked over the new JomSocial and it's got a very clean interface. I have worked with VM some, but not enough to know if this client is willing to give it a second chance. That's why I asked question #3.

By the way, after reading up on your products, I really like several of your addon products. I can't wait to try them out, too.

Thank you for your help.
I look forward to your answers too.
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Postby Geraint » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:36 pm

jak wrote:Well, I don't believe I have to take this offline, so let me take a swing at some technical questions we have.
1) Will JEvents allow for setting up Paid Events and Non-Paid Events? (I think I found this to be a yes)

Yes using the RSVP Pro addon
2) When configuring a paid Event, is there a way to purchase directly from the Event itself, as opposed to clicking several times to get to the place where you register for the event? (Here again, I believe I found that to be a yes also - including an addon that shows you who has already signed up.)

did you see the demo videos (http://www.jevents.net/jevents-club/demo-videos)? You register within the event detail page.

You can configure the addon to hide or show the attendees and to whom.
3) When registering for a paid Event, I noticed you referenced VirtueMart. Do you integrate with any other e-Commerce extensions for Joomla?

You can pay using manual, paypal or authorize.net directly from RSVP Pro. The only shopping cart we integrate with (as a payment mechanism) is Virtuemart. We looked at RedShop but it was full of very basic bugs and difficult to interact with as a result. HikaShop looked good but to customise it enough to work with would require an enterprise subscription to HikaShop and we felt the combination of RSVP Pro and HikaShop would end up being too expensive.
4) Can JEvents handle multiple locations for events? (I believe this is a yes too.)

Not using the locations addon BUT you can if you use the managed people/resources addon which has the ability to create location type resources which you can attach to events with all the mapping features you would have from managed locations.
5) Is there a way to allow some people to create Events, but prevent others from creating Events? JomSocial Groups perhaps? That might be a question for the JomSocial folks, but you might know. :-)

JEvents permissions are either based on specific user permissions or Joomla user groups.
6) Have you ever had someone want to replace JomSocial's EVENTS menu with JEvents? I read on your site where you can import JomSocial Events into JEvents, but my client doesn't want two separate extensions that perform the same function. I know JomSocial won't help modify the code, but I might be able to figure that out myself. Is that possible? I guess I'm wondering what you have found to be the "best practice" when combining. JEvents & JomSocial. (Assume Joomla 2.5.9 at the very least and JomSocial 2.8.2)

Currently its possible to suppress the Events features in JomSocial and wrap JEvents within the JomSocial template thereby making it appear that JEvents is running the JomSocial events. BUT there is no guarantee that JomSocial could change their functionality in the future to make this more difficult.
This client is terribly gun-shy as it pertains to JomSocial and VirtueMart. Why? Because the site is still running Joomla 1.5 and terribly old versions of JomSocial and VirtueMart, and a different Calendar extension entirely. We've looked over the new JomSocial and it's got a very clean interface. I have worked with VM some, but not enough to know if this client is willing to give it a second chance. That's why I asked question #3.

By the way, after reading up on your products, I really like several of your addon products. I can't wait to try them out, too.

Thank you for your help.
I look forward to your answers too.

which payment mechanism did you want to use? Some clients have developed their own country specific payment gateways for RSVP Pro.
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Postby jak » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:03 pm

WOW!! Thank you so much for the reply, especially all the "right" answers!! :-) Seems like I'm almost ready to recommend the Gold Membership to my client.

Been running into a huge Joomla snag today (it's Monday after all) with regards to PHP versions. What version of PHP does JEvents 2.2 (latest) require?

Additional questions I had from my client.

1) Will paid events need to be configured in VirtueMart as well? In other words, will this be a double configuration for each paid event? (once in JEvents and once in VM)

2) How does JEvents pass information to VM or e-Commerce extension?

3) Is there an API we can use for an e-Commerce solution, assuming client still hates VirtueMart?

4) What Payment Gateways are available? Actually that might be a VM question. VirtueMart is the shop and I suspect they use gateways like PayPal, 2Checkout, etc.

Thank you again for all the great feedback and help!

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Postby Geraint » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:23 am

JEvents needs PHP 5 at least - we've not tested it with versions prior to 5.2 for a while. 5.3 is recommended to be future proof.

RSVP Pro will 'auto-create' the virtuemart product and configure the pricing on the fly so you only need to configure Virtuemart once during the installation/setup.

Passing info to VM is via a custom field we create for VM using a VM custom field plugin. This way the product in the basket/cart/order is linked to the registration - the pricing is all taken care of by RSVP Pro and this plugin.

We support Paypal IPN, Authorize.net (SIM) and manual/offline payments natively and via VM all the gateways it supports.

You could create your own gateway for 2checkout etc. - based on either the Paypal or Authorize gateways. One is a callback gateway and the other is an inline gateway so there is an example of both to go on.
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Postby jak » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:08 pm

You are the best, Geraint! Thank you so much for all your answers. Just purchased the Gold Membership.

Can't wait to get started!
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Postby jak » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:28 pm

Do you recommend JEvents 3.0 or 2.2.8?

Guess it's time to move out of the Pre-Sales forum. :-)
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Postby Geraint » Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:43 am

JEvents 3.0 is where all the future development is going so for a new site I would recommend starting with JEvents 3.0.
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Postby aanyad » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:02 am

I am using Jevents and Jomsocial in a very sophisticated business network. Every user has its own calendar embedded in his profile and ever ygroup has its own calendar.
Whenever an evennt is created, the creator has to specify, if the event is visible only to him, to allm user or only to his friends or the members of a certain group.
Thus, Jevents improves the functionality of Josocial and introduces a perfect event management system.
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