ACL Conflicts / Not Allowed (Locked)
By Guest on Friday, 10 April 2015
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I need a calendar app on my site, and have downloaded JEvents for evaluation. However when creating Event Categories and editing Permissions, I see "Conflict" beside permission dropdowns, and "Not Allowed (Locked)" beside the calculated setting.

I already have implemented several other applications on my site, and I want to use Joomla ACL for all apps (no "Authorised User Mode" in JEvents).

I see from other topics in your forum (21471), that I am not the only one having these issues, and that you propose "Authorised User Mode" to resolve it.

Have you given up on ACL (please be honest so that I may select the correct product), or do you support users like me, that need common access control for all applicaitons ? If so, then please let me know how to resolve this issue.

System Info:

PHP Version : 5.5.19
MySQL Version : 5.5.41-MariaDB
Joomla : 3.4.1
component_com_jevents : 3.2.9
module_mod_jevents_cal : 3.2.9
module_mod_jevents_custom : 3.2.9
module_mod_jevents_filter : 3.2.9
module_mod_jevents_latest : 3.2.9
module_mod_jevents_legend : 3.2.9
module_mod_jevents_switchview : 3.2.9
plugin_content_jevents : 3.2.9
plugin_finder_jevents : 3.2.9
plugin_search_eventsearch : 3.2.9

Best reg: Kaj.
Joomla ACL is supported but for performance reasons we adopted the approach that you needed to make someone an event creator and then block them from specific categories.

The latest verison of JEvents (3.2.9) has a new config option to allow you to do this the more traditional Joomla way of leaving the creation settings as 'inherited' and setting 'allowed' for specific categories. though bear in mind if you have a lot of categories there will be a performance hit because the Joomla code for checking category permissions is very slow.
Guest
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Friday, 10 April 2015 12:09
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Thank's Geraint ! I updated to 3.2.9 today, added system info above (from 3.2.8 I guess). I will evaluate the performance issues. What is the name of this setting, and where do i find it. I am not going to change any permissions for my Event Categories, Just want to inherit what I allready have setup and is using in other "app's"
Guest
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Friday, 10 April 2015 12:14
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Its on the permission tab (when 'advanced; settings are enabled)
Guest
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Friday, 10 April 2015 12:15
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Thanks Geraint. Then I need some more clarification

Joomla has it's own page for managing permissions ("Global Configuration" / Permission tab). Now JEvents has it's own page for configuring ACL. How does those two relate to one-another ?

All I want is for JEvents to inherit (dynamically) the changes I do in Joomla Global configuraiton.
Guest
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Friday, 10 April 2015 12:28
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All components will have their own ACL page (in JEvents its in the config on the permissions tab) and have some of their own and inherit some global settings.

What are the specific issues you are having?
Guest
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Friday, 10 April 2015 12:37
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Does the JEvent ACL inherit the global ACL settings ? If so, does inheritance happen once at installation time, or are settings in JEvent ACL dynamically updated as Global ACL settings change ? I have not done anything on the JEvent ACL yet.

The issue I am having is that in JEvent ACL - for several group actions it says "Conflict" / "Not Allowed (Blocked)" . If I go to Joomla ACL I dont see any "Conflict" / "Nor Allowed". -And as I said, when I start creating Categories, I also see "Conflict" / "Nor Allowed" there (obviously as the instance inherits the global JEvent ALC settings).
Guest
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Friday, 10 April 2015 13:08
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JEvents inherits SOME (generic) settings and has its own e.g. for editing own events.

Please upload screenshots of where you see the problem
Guest
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Friday, 10 April 2015 13:33
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2 screendumps attached.
Guest
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Friday, 10 April 2015 13:49
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That is the way Joomla works - if Administrator is a child of Worker and workers are actively blocked (denied) then Administrator would be too.

What if you leave worker edit events as 'inherited' ?
Guest
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Friday, 10 April 2015 14:52
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Thank's a lot Geraint.

"JEvents inherits SOME (generic) settings and has its own e.g. for editing own events."
-My original errind was whether I can maintain all permissions in Joomla's ACL, and then they will propagate to JEvents, so that if I e.g. after 1 year, decide that worker shall not any more be allowed to edit Articles/events etc. and if I change this groups permissions in Joomla's ACL, then these settings will also be automatically changed in JEvent's ACL (the screendumps).
You mention SOME, -I am just interrested in the Group Permissions.

If I have to administer JEvents permissions separately, I might as well go for "Authorised User Mode", or find another product that does what I would like
Guest
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Friday, 10 April 2015 15:24
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The issue is that most sites want to maintain event creation permissions separate from article creation permissions - you'll probably find the same behaviour in other events addons for Joomla
Guest
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Friday, 10 April 2015 15:27
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Thank's a lot Geraint for all your input today. If it is so, then it is prorbably better to use "Authorised User Mode". But how do I avoid the users having to create a profile twice then ?
Guest
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Friday, 10 April 2015 18:36
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Hello,

No need for two profiles. Just use our Authorised User Mode and add them to the authorised users and they will be allowed to create events etc.

Many thanks
Tony
Guest
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Saturday, 11 April 2015 22:11
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